This is their problem. It's not your problem or my problem. We focus on our Bhajana and not on others.
But this is not the point here. The point here is that meditation on Siddha Deha and Raganuga Bhakti begins at the end of Anartha Nvritti and beginning of Nistha, according Srila Prabhupada, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta, Srila Bhaktivinoda and all the Acaryas.
I respect your point of going a different path than what is in Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu. Everyone on their own path and everyone happy. I am very liberal and respect everything. But they are different paths.
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Respeto tu punto de seguir un camino diferente al del Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu. Cada uno por su camino y cada uno contento. Soy muy liberal y respeto todo. Pero son caminos diferentes.
"Bhāva appears in very fortunate people in two ways: by absorption in Sādhana, or by the mercy (Kṛpā) of Kṛṣṇa or His devotee. The appearance of Bhāva through Sādhana is normal. Its appearance through Kṛpā (mercy) is rare."
(Śrī Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.3.6)
Her Diksa Guru was Vipina Vihārī Gosvāmī. The same of her husband Srila Bhaktivinoda.
We may be struggling to overcome the Anarthas.
But the question that must be asked from the beginning is:
Where do we want to go, Vaikuntha or Vrndavana? What is our goal?
The answer is not "I go wherever Krsna wants."
Because the destiny of the Sadhaka is established by his spiritual desires.
Krsna gives the devotee in the end what the devotee desires during Sadhana.
So where do we want to go, Vaikuntha or Vrndavana? What is our goal?
This must be established from the beginning.
If you answer Vaikuntha, congratulations. You are a Vaidhi Bhakta.
If you answer Vrndavana, congratulations. You are a Raganuga Bhakta.
Both of them will have to go through all the stages of Bhakti until they reach perfection.
At some point we have to leave the "sit on the fence"
It is 1.2.303.
Yes, the Sadhaka may choose Vaikuntha with Laksmi Narayana or Aisvarya Goloka with Radha Krsna worshipped with Aisvarya.
But, Gaudiyas choose the eternal Gokula in Raga Marga.
Muito obrigado pela questões.
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In fact, there is no right number. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta suggests after 15 - 20 years.
But it may happen that someone already brings progress from other lives and in a short time they are ready.
Others will need even more than 15 - 20 years.
This is a very personal and internal thing. It is the Sadhaka himself/herself who, when doing a self-analysis, knows where he/she is.
Srila Bhaktivinoda recommends this self-analysis in Jaiva Dharma.
And no one has to interfere in other people's Bhajana.
It's not like we are going to say: "Ah, he/she only chant for a short time. He/she is not fit."
Little time, more time to chant. THIS IS ONLY SADHAKA HIMSELF/HERSELF WHO KNOWS AND NOBODY HAS TO GET INVOLVED.
This is very common in the Gaudiya world. Getting involved in other people's lives. And here I encompass everyone. IGM and Babajis.
I won't say all, but the vast majority. They like to interfere in other people's lives.
The gossipers were having a party in the Gaudiya world !!!!!!
GO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PERSONAL BHAJANA !!!
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De facto não existe um número certo. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta sugere depois de 15 - 20 anos.
Mas pode acontecer de alguém já trazer avanço de outras vidas e em pouco tempo estar apto.
Outros precisarão até mais do que 15 - 20 anos.
Isto é uma coisa muito pessoal e interna. É o próprio Sadhaka ao fazer uma auto análise que sabe onde está.
Srila Bhaktivinoda recomenda esta auto análise no Jaiva Dharma.
E ninguém tem que se meter no Bhajana alheio.
Não é que vai afirmar: "Ah, cantou pouco tempo. Não está apto."
Pouco tempo, mais tempo de cantar. ISTO É SÓ O PRÓPRIO SADHAKA QUE SABE E NINGUÉM TEM QUE SE METER.
Isto é muito comum no mundo Gaudiya. Se meter na vida dos outros. E aqui englobo todos. IGM e Babajis.
Não vou dizer todos, mas a grande maioria. Gostam de se meter na vida dos outros.
Os fofoqueiros da vida faziam uma festa no mundo Gaudiya !!!!!!!
VAI CUIDAR DO TEU BHAJANA PESSOAL !!!
Se a lembrança das instruções for feita de modo agradável e gentil, sim é importante.
She is the mother of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta. They are very similar.
