Letter to Jagadisa -- Los Angeles 25 April, 1970
"Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall, your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at any time, so there is always the chance of falling down by misuse of one's independence. But those who are firmly fixed up in devotional service to Krsna are making proper use of their independence and so they do not fall down.
Regarding your second question, have the conditioned souls ever seen Krsna? Were they with the Lord before being conditioned by the desire to lord it over material nature? Yes, the conditioned souls are parts and parcels of the Lord and thus they were with Krsna before being conditioned. Just as the child must have seen his father because the father places the child in the womb of the mother, similarly each soul has seen Krsna or the Supreme Father. But at that time the conditioned souls are resting in the condition called susupti which is exactly deep sleep without dream, or anesthetized state, therefore they do not remember being with Krsna when they wake up in the material world and become engaged in material affairs. I hope this will satisfy your questions."
Esta carta de Srila Prabhupada es fenomenal. Es conclusiva.
Pa la primera pregunta, Srila Prabhupada responde que los asociados eternos de Krsna y pa aquellos que alcanzan esta posicion, NUNCA utilizan mal su pequeña independencia.
Genial !!!
Pa la segunda pregunta, si la jiva estubo con Krsna ANTES de estar condicionada, Prabhupada responde que si, estubo, CON Maha Visnu en Susupti. Prabhupada no dice que estaba en Goloka o Vaikuntha. Mas claro, impossible.
Los Sastras no dicen NADA, NADA, NADA acerca de cual era la condicion de la Baddha Jiva antes del Susupti a no ser que estaba en el ciclo de creacion anterior. Ningun Sastra dice NADA de que la Jiva estaba en Vaikuntha o Goloka. Y Prabhupada aqui da la conclusion de los Sastras.
Esta carta es fenomenal.
Srila Prabhupada Ki Jaya !!!
En una otra carta, Prabhupada dice:
"Because he falls down from Brahma-sayujya, he thinks that this may be his origin, but he does not remember that even before that, he was with Krishna."
Brahma Sayujya es estar fundido en el aspecto impersonal. No tiene nada que ver con Sususpti.
Mismo antes de ter caido del Brahma Sayujya, estubo con Krsna (Maha Visnu) en Susupti.